I was just thinking about how pacifist I am. I was working through it the obvious way. Was this war worth it? This war? How about this mistake, should someone have sent in the troops? Of course, if you sit out all the time it makes you more prone to future attack, like Switzerland. But I’m ignoring any affect like that.
I’m deciding that not a lot of wars were worth it. From a lives standpoint, it is usually pretty easy. If you count injuries, it tends to get even easier. But then there are some harder things, like “freedom”. It’s not like I value lives that much. It is just that I think “freedom” is pretty over-rated. I could imagine circumstance that might motivate me to rebel against a really opressive government. But they are pretty absurdly opressive. Pol Pot sure but maybe not Saddam.
Let’s say that I were an Iraqi and I could by sacrificing, say, 50,000 good guy lives instantly transform my country into a democratic utopia on par with USA. I would be hesitant. Even if I used the most extreme projections, I have to admit that the BGs weren’t going to kill anywhere near that number. And how much additional freedom is that really? There might be a lot of things that I can do that I couldn’t before, but are they worth i? I’m pretty sure I would want to wait Saddam out. But then I might try to emmigrate.
If you can move to a different country, maybe that would make more sense. How about we let people in shitty countries immigrate more easily? That would be nice. Where was that touching plaque, you know, with the ”... yearning to breath free.” bit? The statue of liberty? Does it still say that?
Of course when someone just up and attacks you, you have to fight back. In those cases, there isn’t a lot to think about. But I am talking about real invasion type of things. Like Israel ‘67 or Europe WW2. I am not talking about sept 11 or (Oklahoma city for that matter). I am not even talking about Pearl Harbor. As unpaletable as it may have seemed, “Oh Japan, you really got us there. I think we are going to sit the rest of this out.” was an option.
Whoops, I wasn’t even planning on talking about Iraq. Forget I mentioned it. What I wanted to talk about was the civil war. Having never been South of W. Virginia for more than two weeks at a stretch, I never really questioned the civil war. The GGs won, the nation stayed together and we’re all better off.
But let’s say it got played differently. The South secedes the North is like, “Call me if you get lonely.” and the South is like, “We’ll still be friends.” I have a hard time imagining enough ill effects to make it worth the war, 3.5 million slaves notwithstanding. How can I say that?
600,000 dead 400,000 wounded and the freed slaves’ lives didn’t improve very substantially. They certainly did improve. And freedom (not in quotes) is definitely pretty nice. But if you asked a slave how many people would he sacrifice for his freedom (even if you didn’t tell him about sharecropping, segregation and all that) I think he would come up with a lower number. Maybe 200,000/133,000. And, if you ask me, slavery was on it’s way out anyway. I think one generation of political effort would have accomplished just as much.